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Monday, March 26, 2012

February Update

Things are looking better at the Houston apartment complex. Of course, the previous times I’ve said this it’s usually turned out to be a short-lived turn-around, but still, a good month is a good month. Rental income increased in February by almost $10,000, mainly due to decreased rent concessions. This month saw the highest rent revenue since April 2011. We had t pay out $3,800 for some repairs to the roof and access gate, but other expenses are running according to budget. Management implemented  a water conservation plan and that has resulted in significantly decreased water and sewer bills. They are now moving forward with a gas billback program. This means the residents will start paying a portion of the gas bill. They currently pay a portion of the water bill and with the reduction in that expense, management feels the gas billback will be accepted by the tenants. They should still have an overall lower billback cost than they had prior to the water conservation program. They also installed a separate water meter for landscaping so they can begin a billback program for landscape water usage.

Now, it’s been a long time since I lived in an apartment – at least 20 years. Maybe things have changed since then, but I know I never paid any sort of utility billback for general landscaping or anything. I paid my rent and that was it. If I recall, the units were individually metered and all the utilities were in my name, so that might be part of the reason. Off hand, I can’t remember how the units in the Houston complex are metered. It just seems strange to me to bill renters for water used for landscaping. Of course, this might also be a regional thing too. If that’s how things are done in Houston, then it makes sense that we do it too.

Last month, management asked the investors to inject another $250,000 into the property to help it get through the current rough financial situation. I opted not to contribute and apparently, I wasn’t the only one. They raised $140,000, well short of their goal. However, they are using this money to catch up on payments with vendors who we still owe money to. Management is also using the funds to make ready more units to help improve the occupancy number. They didn’t give an occupancy percentage with this report, but if I use the gross rent and vacancy numbers from the financial report, it looks like we are at about 91% occupancy right now.

On the hard money lending side of things, I didn’t blog about it, but my partner said last month that things seemed to be picking up and he was short of funds. Well, a lot can change in a month and things have now reversed and he has money waiting for investments. Our main borrower says deals have slowed down a bit, although he is still buying a couple properties a day. A short time ago, he was doing two to three times that amount. As my partner says, the business is often cyclical and he has learned to be patient and wait for good deals rather than invest in questionable deals just to get funds invested in something. That's how you go 20 years in this business without losing a penny of your investors' principle.

On a more personal note, I got my taxes back from my accountant this weekend and I got hammered on my federal taxes. I owe a couple thousand. I wasn’t sure how that could have happened until I remembered that in 2010 I converted a traditional IRA into a Roth IRA and elected to report the income over two years. I should have adjusted my withholding rate last year to help alleviate this, but I guess I forgot. The good news is that next year, I won’t be hit with another big tax bill (hopefully), as that conversion has now been fully reported. The Houston apartment complex gave me a roughly $7,000 passive loss I can claim. Unfortunately, it can only be used to offset passive gains, of which I have none. So that loss will just get carried forward until I have some passive gains I can use it against. I had thought that the interest from my hard money lending was passive income, but my accountant reminded me it is not. Based on my current investments and future outlook, I think this loss will probably end up being carried forward until the Houston apartment is sold. But that’s OK. It just means I’ll be getting a nice surprise in the future, as I’ll probably forget about it. That actually happened to me this year on my state return. I had a $400 credit from 2009 that  was carried forward, adding to my state tax refund this year.

Monday, April 04, 2011

Shaun Gets Nostalgic

I recently spent some time reading Savvy Saver’s blog – particularly her posts about her 4-plex and how that investment has been going for her. She’s had it for 4 years now and it seems to be going well. She and her husband are managing it themselves, so they do have the occasional tenant headache they have to deal with, but all in all, it seems to be doing well for them. I am encouraged that they have held the property this long and that they didn’t jump off the REI bandwagon like so many others have done.

Reading all that has made me slightly nostalgic. Passive investing in nice, but truthfully, I do miss having a more hands-on approach to real estate investing. I really enjoyed rehabbing houses. (I didn’t really enjoy dealing with tenants that much though, so I don’t feel the urge to become a landlord again.) My passive income from hard money lending is nice and I actually am making more per month than I was typically getting from my rentals. Of course, I am also missing out on some of the benefits of property ownership, the biggest being the depreciation write-offs. The flip side is that I don’t need to worry about 1041 exchanges or any of the more complicated tax stuff that goes along with those write-offs.

Still, looking back over all the real estate investing I’ve done, I do miss the hands-on rehabbing stuff. I tend to enjoying creating order out of chaos, which is basically what you are doing when you are fixing up a foreclosure that has been trashed by the previous owner. Hard money lending is truly passive and requires little of my time (thanks to my partner), but it doesn’t make for exciting blog posts.

I’m still on several mailing lists for rehab and foreclosure properties. I’m starting to see the real estate market pick back up in my area (or at least, it appears to have stopped falling). I’m getting the itch to rehab again. Unfortunately, I don’t think I’ll be able to scratch that itch any time soon. We just remodeled our house, which used up most of my credit line. I’ve recently switched jobs and I don’t yet have a feel for how busy I will be here. (Coordinating rehab projects sometimes takes a bug chunk out of my day, not to mention visits out to the property.) Most of my funds are tied up in hard money deals. But I am glad I have a self-directed IRA. Once I have enough funds in there, I could start using that money for either rehabbing or renting property. That day is a ways off though, but it is something to keep in mind.

I remember reading once that financially savvy people know there are many ways to make money whereas those with less financial knowledge think a paycheck is the only way. I see lots of ways and it’s difficult to choose. I guess that’s a good problem to have.

Thursday, March 31, 2011

February Apartment Financials

Before I get into the latest financials for the apartment, let me say the Chez Cliff blog has shut down. Cliff started out blogging about REI and, after being laid off, moved into a consultant role and steered his blog in that direction (very similar to what Kenric has done.) Cliff's last post mentioned that he didn't want to be posting on his blog just to post. I can understand that. It's easy to fall into the trap of feeling like you have to post something every week or every X days. I've felt that way too, but my desire to post informative items tends to outweigh that desire, so I can resist that urge, it seems. (Case in point: I noticed I didn't post at all last month.) A while ago, I wrote a post musing about where all the old bloggers that I used to follow went. Many have given up on their blog and / or (presumably) moved on from REI. I'm sorry to add Cliff to that list. But it's pretty clear that he's not abandoning what he was doing. In fact, it's obvious he is enjoying his new consulting business. He just got tired of blogging. It's sad to lose another blogger that I regularly followed, but I understand Cliff's reasons and I wish him the best. (P.S. I'd link to his old blog, but he seems to have taken it down. That's a decision I personally disagree with. Even if I didn't want to blog anymore, I'd still leave the blog up - simply because I think it's got a lot of useful information that people might learn from, even if no new content was being added.)

On to the latest apartment news.

The February numbers are in and the financials continue to improve. February showed a $2,600 increase in revenue from January and more than a $7,000 improvement over December. This is not quite as big a jump as management expected (last month they said they expected a $5,000 revenue increase), but it's still nothing to sneeze at. This month, managment says they are expecting a $2,000 increase in March.

Occupancy inched up another percentage point to 94% while rent concessions dropped by about 10%. Marketing and retention costs also dropped by almost 20%. Perhaps this is a sign the economy in Texas is improving. We received almost $50,000 back from the escrow impound account after the yearly escrow analysis. This is a one-time gain and the money was used to pay off some old bills that were not paid during the leaner months of last year. Overall, for the first two months of the year, we are running about $40,000 ahead of our budgeted income. Granted, that large chunk of change from the escrow impound refund helped us, but moving foward, I think we'll be in better shape. As mentioned last month, our March loan payment will be about $8,000 a month less due to our property tax valuation appeal from last year. That will definitely improve the bottom line. I'm crossing my fingers, but it looks like we might have turned the corner here.

In other news, I have completed the rollover of my Roth 401(k) into my self-directed Roth IRA. As soon as my partner finds a new hard money loan, I'll put those funds into action.

Thursday, March 10, 2011

Self-Directed IRA Is Now Profitable

Last year, I started the process of converting one of my IRAs to a self-directed Roth IRA. It took about 5 months to get it all set up, but it's been rolling along for a while now. I'm pleased to say that, as of last month, it has become profitable. What I mean by that is I incurred about $3,500 in setup expenses to get the everything transferred and the LLC set up. With last month's hard money payment, I have now recouped all those setup expenses and the IRA is now out of the red.

I also recently changed jobs and am now working on rolling my Roth 401(k) from the old job into my self-directed IRA to give me some more capital to invest with.

Tuesday, June 08, 2010

Two Loans Closing This Week

Hard money loan #12 is closing today. This one only lasted two months. That’s the shortest loan I’ve made in a while, possibly ever. The borrower almost got a discount for paying it off so quickly. The standard loan note my partner uses generally provides incentives for early payoff if made within 30 days of funding or 60 days of funding. The 60 day cutoff was June 5, so the borrower missed getting a $3,560 discount by 3 days.

Hard money loan #11 is still scheduled to close on Friday.

Got my first check from hard money loan #13 today. This is the one that I’m using my self-directed IRA for. I must say, I’m pretty happy. That one payment is already more than my traditional IRA that is invested in the stock market has made this year. Of course, I still need to recoup the costs of setting up the self-directed IRA, so technically, I’m still in the hole on this one. But getting a check each month feels a lot better than helplessly watching the stock market gyrate.

Monday, May 10, 2010

First Investment With Self-Directed IRA

It’s been a very long time in the making – five months – but I am now making my first investment with my self-directed IRA! I opened the bank account two weeks ago, the hold on my initial deposit check ended last week, and now I’ve found a new hard money investment. This one will be all the more sweet since it will be made using funds from my self-directed Roth IRA, and thus the profits will be tax-free!

My partner has another hard money lending opportunity. This one is for a mortgage of $224,000 on a property the borrower purchased at auction for $321,000, giving us a 70% LTV ratio.  (Well, loan to purchase price ratio, anyway. The actual value of the property is somewhat variable, as I mention below.) The property is a single story, single family home in central California. It was built in 1951 and is a 3 bedroom / 2 bath property with 1020 square feet. It has an attached single car garage. The previous owners were out of town owners renting it out.

Comps range from $380,000 to $420,000 from another investor who has never seen the property, but knows the area, to $370,000 from automated sources (Zillow and ForeclosureRadar) to $350,000 from a Realtor who looked at pictures of the property but did not check the MLS. Given the wide variety in comp values, I would expect this property to take a little longer than typical to sell. Back in 2007, the last time it was listed in the MLS, the average days on market for the area was about 4 months. And the listing price for this property back then was $600,000. This property is located in the same city the property for hard money #10 was in.

Investment is standard terms – 10% interest only payments, loan term of 1 year with balloon payment due at loan end. This loan will be labeled hard money #13.

Thursday, April 29, 2010

Harry Potter And The Mountain Of Paperwork

Last week, I wrote about my decision to try to move all my documents to electronic format. I've spent the last week converting some of them. Luckily, several of the companies I deal with provide access to electronic statements online, even if you had not signed up for them in the past. This means I was able to download, for example, the last 10 years of my brokerage statements from Charles Schwab. That saved me a lot of scanning. For the things I couldn't download, I have slowly been scanning documents. I've gotten through about one and a half drawers of my 4 drawer file cabinet. Here's a picture of the documents I've converted to electronic form so far:


In case you can't read it, that's a tape measure hanging off the pile. It's showing the stack is 9 inches tall. I just waved my trusty scanner at the pile and Reducio! Gone! Now I've got lots of shredding to do.

My online backup has also been proceeding over the past week. It's currently backed up about 60% of the 50 GB of data I have selected. (Since I have unlimited storage, I selected others things to back up besides the  electronic documents I am creating, such as my photos and MP3s.) Once this initial backup has finished, subsequent backups will be almost instantaneous.

In real estate-related news, it would seem the market in California, or at least one part of Calfornia, is recovering. The property I made hard money loan #11 against is finished being rehabbed and is now on the market. It was put up for sale on a Monday. By Saturday, the seller had received seven offers at or above the list price! We figured it would sell for $700,000, but it looks like the seller may be able to get $725,000 for it. If the seller accepts an offer and all goes well with escrow, the loan should be paid off by mid-June.

I also finally got everything all finished in setting up my self-directed IRA. I opened a bank account for the LLC yesterday. Now I just have to wait 1 week for the bank to release the hold on my deposit check and I'll be able to start hard money lending with my IRA!

Wednesday, April 14, 2010

Self-Directed IRA Almost Ready To Roll

I received my LLC paperwork package in the mail two days ago. Today, I received confirmation that the LLC creation notice has been published in a newspaper of record (as required by law). My next steps are:

  1. Send the IRA custodian instructions to issue a check to the LLC for the purchase of membership shares. This is where my IRA takes ownership of the LLC, thus giving me a self-directed IRA.
  2. Return the membership roster and member share certificates to the company that set up the LLC for me. (The company is related to the IRA custodian, but not technically the same company.)
I could go open a bank account now using the LLC documents I have, but I will wait until I get the check first, since I don't feel like trying to see if I can open a checking account without making a deposit. Why complicate things?

I'll get all the forms mailed out tomorrow, so I figure it should be a week before my check arrives and I can open a bank account.

Friday, April 09, 2010

One loan ends, another starts.

Sometimes everything just falls into place at the right time. Hard money loan #10 was paid off and just a day or two later, another opportunity came up. I can roll my funds into that one with no time spent not earning interest while searching for a deal.

The new opportunity is a single family house, 5 bedroom, 2.5 baths,  in a nice area of San Leandro (Northern California). The borrower is a well-experienced borrower who we have done business with in the past. At the height of the real estate boom, this property sold for over $800,000. Of course, that’s pretty much a worthless number now and I am always amused when I see such figures in the analysis data that gets sent to me. The more important numbers are as follows: The property was bought at auction for approximately $475,000. The buyer is putting  25% of his own money into this and we are lending the remaining. After repair value of the property is approximately $560,000 with an average days on market of just over 1 month. Using the ARV of the property, our LTV is 63%. Using the buy price, it is, as mentioned, 75%. Nearby and similar properties rent for just over $2,700 a month, so if we foreclose, we are looking at $33,000 gross rental income per year. It is in a stable neighborhood (few other houses for sale).

Here is a picture of the front of the property. There isn’t much fix up needed and the property is already vacant. We expect this loan will be paid off in 3 to 6 months, although the loan term is for 1 year. Standard deal – 10%, interest only, 1 year balloon, no pre-pay penalty. This will be labeled hard money #12.



All is not quite so rosy with the apartment complex in Houston. The last month I have data for, February, showed a decline in revenue, even as occupancy increased. This was due to increased concessions to get people to move in. Occupancy is fluctuating between 88% and 90% as the area continues to be hit by poor economic conditions. Cashflow is running breakeven. Management expects it to remain this way through the end of the first quarter and to pick up in the second quarter, as occupancy is increased.

Hard money loan #4, the motorcycle loan I did for a co-worker, should also be paid off in a day or two. I was told the payoff check was mailed yesterday.

The self-directed IRA is proceeding slowly, mainly due to a comedy of errors. First, I filled out the wrong paperwork to get the thing started. The company I am working with created an LLC for me. They were waiting for some paperwork to be mailed to them from the Arizona Corporation Commission. But the ACC mailed the paperwork to me, because I am the manager. It wasn’t until a month went by that I found out they were waiting for paperwork I had already received. I faxed it over to them last week, and I think that is all they need now. They have to send me my LLC documents, and then I can go open a bank account.

On a personal note, my wife and I each picked up a new 2010 Prius two weeks ago. We are both loving the cars. I’m averaging 53 miles per gallon, despite having a daily 66 mile round trip commute, mostly at highway speeds. I love being able to fill the tank less often and for less than I did with my old Avalon, which took $42 to fill up. The Prius takes $21. We each got the solar package, which uses a solar panel in the roof to power a fan to exchange the air in the car with outside air while it’s parked in the sun, keeping it cooler. Here in Arizona, that’s a huge benefit, especially since we haven’t gotten the windows tinted yet. With the purchase of the cars, we went from having no car payments to two car payments, so the passive investing income I’m getting will come in handy.

Thursday, March 18, 2010

Big Update

Wow..It’s been almost three months since I started the process of setting up a self-directed IRA. Time flies! I am approaching the end to setting everything up, I believe. Probably half of the delays were my fault. First, I filled out the wrong paperwork – I filled out the Traditional IRA application instead of the Roth IRA application. I didn’t catch that until the account had been opened, so then we had to close that account and restart the process using the correct forms. Then, Schwab, where I had the assets I was funding this IRA with, refused the request to transfer funds out. It took three tries. The request kept getting rejected because the paperwork from the new IRA custodian didn’t specify “Roth IRA” in one location on the paperwork. Once we got that straightened out, the transfer went smoothly. But each rejection took a couple of weeks, so we lost a lot of time there. After the funds are transferred to the new custodian, the next step is the creation of an LLC. The IRA will then purchase all the shares of the LLC, thus giving me, the LLC manager, control of the LLC funds.  Well, I checked with my account rep and he told me the fund hadn’t arrived from Schwab yet. Turns out, he was checking the old traditional IRA account that we incorrectly set up initially. Once I pointed this out, he checked the correct account and saw the funds had been transferred. Last week, he started the LLC creation process. I checked the Arizona Corporation Commission’s website this morning and found that the LLC was created yesterday. The next step in the process (and the final one, I think) will be to open and fund a bank account. I believe I will be getting a letter from the LLC custodian to take to a bank that will allow me to open a bank account in the name of the LLC. I’ll contact my account rep later today and find out the next steps I need to take.

Had an update on the Houston apartment complex. I missed the semi-annual conference call, so I only have the info in the monthly reports to go on. It looks like the economy is finally catching up to the Houston market and more jobs are being lost there. Occupancy for January went up slightly and early February also showed some gains. Occupancy is at 90%. Total cashflow was negative $911 in January, the first time the property has had a negative cashflow since we bought it. Management expects cashflow to remain low for the first quarter of this year. This property continues to outperform other similar properties in the area however. The overall market occupancy is 84.8%. The submarket we are in is running 86.6%. As mentioned earlier, we are at 90%, so I feel management is doing a pretty good job. Rent concessions are actually about $200 below budget for the month of January. Higher insurance and real estate tax escrows continue to adversely impact the bottom line. Management was looking into obtaining new insurance and hopefully that process will be completed soon.

On the hard money loan front, things are running smoothly. I have two loans that will likely be paid off soon – hard money loan #4 and #10. Loan #4 was a loan on a motorcycle to a former co-worker of mine. He was recently laid off (about 1 year after I was also laid off) and he is selling the bike. He thinks he has a buyer for it now. The property for loan #10 has been on the market for about 3 months. The owners have it priced a bit high. We knew going into this one that their estimate of the value of the property was probably too high, but even using our lower estimate, the deal still looked good. Now it’s just a matter of the owners coming to the same conclusion on their own. We estimated the property was worth $320,000 and loaned $192,600 in the deal. The owners started out listing the property at $378,600. They have lowered it now to $348,600. They have the property fixed up nicely and have staged the house so it shows well. Even so, they’ll probably have to lower the price again. They are current on payments though, so I’m not worried.

Loan #11 is progressing as well. We had to evict the previous owner to get him to leave, but that process only took 1.5 months, which is relatively quick. The property needs paint, carpet, tile, and some minor flooring work. It should be set to go on the market in 3 weeks. This is the property bought by my partner’s wife, so I’m sure things will move swiftly.

And lastly, my wife and I took a little trip to Las Vegas last weekend. We got a deal from the Wynn for 3 free nights plus $300 in free play and took advantage of it. When we got there, my wife wanted to play the $300 credit on a $5 video poker machine. She sat down and, on her very first hand, got this:



Amazing!! The rest of the trip sort of went downhill from there, but it was a heck of a way to start! And it was nice knowing that we were playing with their money for basically the entire trip.

Monday, January 25, 2010

New Year, New Opportunities

The holidays were a pretty busy time for me and I realized I neglected to write about the performance of my Houston apartment complex investment. I also just got the update for December, so I’ll write about both now.

In November, occupancy dropped to 90%, due in part to the declining Houston economy. This property still continues to outperform the other apartment complexes in the area by 3-5%. The manager expected vacancies to remain at this level though December due to the holiday season, but expressed hope that rentals will increase after the first of the year. Cash flow decreased to just under $4,000 for the month and was impacted by higher insurance costs and real estate tax escrow requirements, as mentioned in the last update.

For December, occupancy remained flat, as expected. The submarket we are in declined to an overall occupancy of 87%, so we are still ahead of the curve. Unemployment in the area has increased from 6.5% in Q1 of 2009 to 8.4% in Q4 of 2009. Obviously, that affects the availability of renters. The Managers are cautiously optimistic for 2010 because job losses have slowed and they have increased their marketing efforts to attract new tenants. Cash flow dropped to just around $350, still impacted by higher insurance and tax escrow requirements. The good news is the management has obtained new insurance that will reduce the cost by about 30%, which translates to a savings of about $35,000 per year. The decrease in cash flow means there will be no end of year distribution to investors. For 2009, investors so far have received a 6.75% annual return overall. Management fully expects investor payments to continue next quarter. The semi-yearly investor conference call will be held the first week of February and I’ll have more info then.

I continue to receive on-time payments on hard money loans #10, 8, and 4. HML #9 was paid off at the end of December and that money is sitting with my partner looking for a new investment. We had one lined up, but it was a short sale and at the last minute, the bank decided to reject the offer, so that fell through.

My move towards a self-directed IRA is making progress. I have converted my rollover IRA to a tradional IRA and then to a Roth IRA. The next step is to transfer the funds to the company the sets up the self-directed IRA. I was planning on going with the iTrust product, but after discussion with the company, have realized that the LLC product, rather than the trust, is a better fit for what I will be doing. The only thing holding this up is that I haven't had time to fill out the paperwork yet. I hope to get that done this week. I'm not in a huge rush as it seems the hard money opportunities are slowing down a bit. My partner is noticing increased competition at the foreclosure auctions.

And finally, it’s been over a year since I was laid off from my day job, but I will finally be hired as a full-time employee again come next Monday. The company I have been working as a contractor for for the last nine months or so has decided to bring me on board permanently. While my passive income is not yet high enough to cover my living expenses, it was high enough to cover the expenses of my loans and credit cards during the year I was laid off. (I normally don’t carry a balance on my credit cards, but the layoff changed that temporarily.) It was a huge relief knowing those bills were covered during the times I had no income coming in. My practice of putting 15% of my paycheck into a savings account also helped my ride out that year. This whole experience has taught me the importance of both passive income and maintaining an emergency savings account.

Wednesday, January 06, 2010

HML #9 paid off

Between Christmas and New Years, hard money loan #9 was paid off. I made a couple thousand dollars on it. I'm leaving my principle with my partner for investing in another loan when he finds a good one.

Over Christmas, we had some out-of-town relatives staying with us and one night, my brother-in-law handed me a real estate listing for a property that was literally down the street from my house. It was listed for $90,000! Being that I live in the neighborhood, I know that property was worth at least $250,000. So we walked down the street to look at the house. It was night, so we couldn't see much, but we could tell it was still occupied. It looked to be in good condition on the outside. The listing said it had a pool. Back at home, I did some more research. Obviously, this was a foreclosure or pre-foreclosure, but I couldn't find anything in my search of public records. No notice of foreclosure auction, no judgments against the owner, nothing. If I had to go based on my research, I'd say the owner was not in any sort of financial difficulty at all.

The following day, I called the listing agent and asked if the $90,000 price was correct. He said it was, although he had received offers so far up to $150,000. He confirmed it was heading to auction. The agent's cell phone cut out, so I didn't get more info, but it sounded good.

The average selling time for properties in the neighborhood is 6 months. I ran some numbers on the conservative side - using an 8 month holding time, below market selling price, etc. and the results looked pretty good. For an all cash deal at $160,000, they could get about a 42% annualized return in that 8 months. Unfortunately, they had no funds available, so they had to pass. I passed as well, since most of my funds are tied up in hard money loans right now. Too bad.

One interesting thing is that I found the original note for the loan on the property and it was for more than $90,000. More than the current high offer of $150,000. That must mean they are trying a short sale, which means the lender would need to approve the final sales price. I would have thought the listing agent, who was a Realtor, would have mentioned this. I also suspect the $90,000 listing price was deliberately set low to attract potential buyers. I'm not sure about the ethics of this and I'm not sure what requirements Realtors have in setting the initial asking price, but it seems like a used-car salesman trick to me.

In other news, my progress towards rolling my IRA into a self-directed Roth IRA is slowly moving forward. For tax reasons, I had to wait until 2010 before I could do the actual conversion. I'm going about this in a couple steps. First, I am converting my Rollover IRA to a Contributory (Traditional) IRA. They are basically the same thing, but my CPA tells me the law that allows me to spread out taxes on the Roth conversion for two years only specifies conversions from a Contributory IRA to a Roth, not a Rollover. The law will probably be changed to fix this, but just to be on the safe side, I'm taking this extra step. The second step will be to convert the Contributory IRA to a Roth IRA. I will do this at the brokerage the IRA is currently at. The third and final step will be to transfer that Roth IRA to a company to who will set up the self-directed IRA. I am currently leaning towards the iTrust offered by NAFEP.

I am currently at the first step in this process and imagine it will take a couple of months to get everything all set up.

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